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I left a question on a forum and i didn't know who else to ask in case I get no responses. But how old is Norman really? I'm assuming season 3-4 take place in 2013 because its after summer sends. The summer that takes place in 2013, where seasons 1-2 are set. Season 5 takes place two years after season 4. How is Norman 22? Shouldn't he be 20? Am I missing something?
The final season begins in October 2017 as seen from Norman's diary that lists his blackouts and he also as a receipt from 'Abraham's Gas for Less' that mentions what year it is. His gravestone in the series finale gives his birth year as 1995 so he's 22.
The time frame of the whole show is five years. He's 17 at the start of it and in the episode 'The Man in Number 9' he tells Norma during an argument that he's almost 18 so the season at most covers the latter part of 2013 (when he goes from being 17 to 18) to early 2014 as winter formals usually take place from December to March. His father died somewhere in the first few months of the year since he and Norma move to White Pine Bay six months later.
The start of Season 2 follows on from the end of Season 1 before skipping ahead four months to the to summer and covers that period. At the start of Season 3 he is 18 (confirmed in print sources) and the season as a whole seems to cover a few weeks.
Season 4 picks up less than 24 hours after the Season 3 finale due to Romero's actions and Dylan is seen hanging 'Missing' posters in town. After Norman is found and released from the psychiatric hospital it's likely he's home for a couple to a few days before he's admitted to Pineview. Before this it's stated that since he's 18 he has to sign the consent forms. Re. his age - this could be a writers' mistake since soon after he returns home from Pineview following two weeks there he, Norma, Emma and Dylan are seen looking for Christmas trees, which means it's December 2014 and he is 19 years old. It probably would have been better if they had said that since he is over the required age his signature was needed on the consent forms.
At the start of the final season there's been a significant time jump from the end of Season 4 since Romero states that he's a couple of years into a five-year jail sentence and Norman has just celebrated his 22nd birthday by the time the season begins.
I actually made a mistake in what I wrote. After Bradley leaves in Season 2 and returns in late Season 3 a year (maybe slightly more) has passed so it's 2015 by then.
As Norman's birthday is in mid-October according to his wristband from St. Sebastian Hospital and the first promo for the final season, which takes place in October, features party hats, he was 20 when he was sent to Pineview around late November/early December as the Lights of Winter festival normally takes place from then until January and Romero says he and Norma were only married for two weeks at the time of her death. It's not specified how long Norman is home before he commits the murder-suicide, only that Romero has been staying away since his return.
Seasons 1-4 take place from Fall 2013 to jcirca Christmas 2015 and the final season is from October to November/December 2017.
I never really paid much attention to the timeline until the final season. :-)
Hi ! i came to this Fandom and, beside the storyline and recap, i see there are no articles by fans,. Maybe there was a previous version that was erased? It's strange that the forum and blog don't contain users writings. Is there a reason ? Maybe i cant see it?
oh, i see.. so what appears as "the old forum has been archivied" refers to a forum that was before the 2015? So from 2015 to now all that the lowwers of the Fandom has posted is that few? I'm writing an academic Thesis on Bates Motel and i was comparing Lostpedia to this wiki page. It's really strange that people didnt conversate here about the final seasons. Maybe they only use Facebook groups ? i mean: nobody here has written fanfic about alternaive endings, or thoughts about the meaning of the quotes of Chick? It's really iportant to my work to know if this is ever happend here so i lll be able to tell the difference with Lostpedia. Thank you for your help, Adriano.
maybe i have an exlpleanation. The Bates Motel Facebook page owned by A&E was always asking fans to comment, to create and share fanart and fanfic that Cuse would have premiate. Fans were incentivated to share on Tumblr with the # that Cuse gave. Maybe the production wanted to own all the comments and creations so that it all referred to A&E and remained on A&E and not to Wikipedia. What do you think ?
From what I've seen, not many people have contributed to this wikia since I joined (even though there are several users listed) and there was always more activity on the show's Facebook page up to the time the show ended.
This wikia is affiliated with other 'Psycho'-related wikias so maybe people have not been so interested in checking this one out. I know that when people heard about this show being a modern day prequel they either weren't so interested in checking it out or were not willing to accept that this was the creators' own interpretation of the 'Psycho' lore. The latter could be the biggest reason why the show didn't have such a large viewership during its time on the air.
As for Tumblr, I can't really make a comment on it since I've never used it.
That the last comment was last year (when series ended) is really weired. No more conversatons after. But when you say that «the show didn't have such a large viewwrship during its time on the air» I don't understand: Bates Motel season 1 reached over 3 millions viewers, it's been the greatest succes of A&E cable ever since. From season 1 to season 5 the viewers became half. But Bates Motel has always been on the top 5 calbe series for the viewership during all its life. Many people watched it on Netlfix, and Netlflix doesnt allow to know how many people watch its programs. Many people watched it on streaming with other sistems. Many websites like HollywoodReporter kept talking about the series. Rotten Tomatoes contains at least 20 reviewrs also for Season 5, wich is more than the reviewers of the last season of Walkin Dead (wich is the most watched cable tv series). And viewers of Walkind Dead, from season 1 to season 8 became half as well, even if the numbers are much higher, but the contraction is the same. Of course Cuse exptected the 3 millions viewers to remain the same when i first wanted 7 season on 2013. The lost of viewers caused the modification from 7 to 5 seasons. Critics and academic professors write a lot about Bates Motel. So i wouldnt say it was a failure. It was born, in season 1, as a great succes, and then it became half regarding the cable viewers, but many comments on the official Facebook page say that they watch it on Netflix for the first time. So it's possible that 2016/17 was a big crisis time for cables (as for Walking Dead cable), and in facr A&E decided not to produce scripted drama anymore. Bates Motel cast was 3 times on Comic Con, nominated on People choice, it made a lot of talking, so i wouldnt say it wasnt a succes but it was just at the end of a strong switch of people from cables to Netflix. What do you think about my point of view?
I think it lost a lot of viewers due to the side story of the drug ring, which a lot of viewers thought didn't suit such a show. I personally didn't have a problem with it.
I know that Carlton Cuse joked about them originally doing 7 seasons (i.e. writing the missing 70 episodes of 'Twin Peaks') but by Season 3 he confirmed that they had at least 2 seasons of storyline left, which IMO was about the right amount of seasons for it to tell its story considering it was marketed as a prequel series. I do think the longer that TV shows go on the more likely they are to run out of a good storyline, which seems to be the case for 'The Walking Dead'. nowadays. Even the long-term fans seem to be bored of it from what I've seen (I personally never got past the third episode of the first season).
It's just a shame that US TV is so dependent on ratings for survival rather than looking at overall viewership. I know that it doesn't matter as much on cable networks as on big networks like FOX, ABC etc. but if they took things like DVR recordings, Netflix viewership etc. into consideration it would mean more success for shows. These days I even find myself watching more things on Netflix as I find there's a lack of enjoyable shows on TV.
Cuse said about doing the last 70 episodes of Twin Peaks on 2013, when Bates Motel was a succes. At the end of Season 2 he started to say that they always wanted only 50 episodes (not true), and after that they didnt even go to the Comic Con, and came up the big news of the series to end in 2017 saying "A&E cancels Bates Motel ending on 2017". For promotion of Season 4 the cast went back to Comic Con again and to SxSW Festival recreating the Motel for fans, giving motel books, a big campaign, but cable rates of Season 4 went even lower, I think they had put the Forest, the drugs, the action arcs to acheive a pulic different from the people interested on incest and doppleganger. I didnt like those narrative arcs (most of all the sister of the boss and all related to her), it was a different genre that i dont like, and it was made very boring. Same thing happened on Twin Peaks 2 when they insert the black lady of James and other stories far from Laura Palmer, rates went drastically down and ABC cancelled the project of a Twin Peaks 3. So probably yes, beside the new way of watching on Netflix, Bates Motel had the problem that some narrative arcs failed : Season 2 made the plans change, so what was wrong on the narratives arcs is on Season 2, but i had found Season 2 very interesting: Cody and her gay friend at the party, the flollowing of the rape by Caleb, Norman in the pit having visions, the musical part, many things were good. Probably the Wattson father and his mafia trade and Dylan drug farm were the boring peaces.
When I first watched the show on Netflix in 2015 before the 3rd season started I didn't enjoy Season 2 as much as Season 1 but then I did another marathon before Season 4 began and I appreciated the second season more since there were things I hadn't picked up on during my first viewing.
Season 3 was very bad on quoting so much Twin Peaks, it looks like a parody: the dead girl on the lake, the man who controls the brodel and much more. too explicit.
Hopefully new people who will discover Bates Motel on Netflix will get passionated and will bring new fans to a fandom. It's such a shame there is no activity from previous people who watched it. Twin Peaks fans have been buzzing for 25 years to have a sequel. Probablt the fact that Norman died has shut up the fans: no more things can be told.
noooooooooo ,so sad you know that means once we are done with the last few pages we will have no more material to write about so we will also have to move on to other projects, huh i hate leaving wikis behind
Thanks for your work on the Steph Green article. I'll sort out the infoboxes etc.
There isn't an article stubs template but I will create one. If you would like to add more info to the other crew member pages, please feel free to do so. If you look at one of the pages I only have the 'Bates Motel' episodes they wrote/directed listed.